December 31, 2004
rage against the bookstore

I get frustrated every time I visit the UBC Bookstore. Here's an example using two textbooks I need for the upcoming term. I checked the UBC Bookstore, the Discount Bookstore on campus (upstairs in the Village), and two online bookstores that sell in Canadian dollars. I have no idea if the two online stores are the cheapest around, but I should note that shipping is free in both cases because the books are so expensive.

TitleUBC BookstoreDiscount BookstoreAmazon.caChapters.ca
Modern Control Systems (Dorf & Bishop, 10th Ed.)$145.70 (new) or $109.30 (used)1$132.95 (new)2$132.95$160.90 (non-member) or $152.86 (member)
Introduction to Quantum Mechanics (Griffiths, 2nd Ed.)$127.05 (new) or $95.30 (used)1$119.95 (new)2$115.95$115.93 (non-member) or $110.15 (member)

1 No used copies were available, which is almost always the case in my experience.
2 I neglected to record the price for used copies, but I didn't notice any available anyway.

I'm sure the Bookstore people would argue that their prices are higher (roughly 10% in this case) because, as part of their mandate, they carry every book for every course, which means they have more inventory and related costs than Discount or the online merchants. They even publish a breakdown of their textbook income. First, I don't buy that. Amazon's total selection is orders of magniture larger and they're still cheaper because they focus on efficiency. But even if it was a valid argument, the Bookstore also carries a lot of unnecessary crap like dozens of "Teach Yourself C/C++/PHP/Access/HTML/Excel/etc. in 20 Minutes!" titles. More importantly, the other places are profit-driven corporations while the Bookstore is supposed to serve UBC students. They seem to have huge labour costs, perhaps because they have no incentive to streamline their operation like Amazon. For example, their web site is a mess. Their FastStart system sounds like a good idea, but it's so much less friendly than Amazon/Chapters, so poorly advertised, and no less expensive than buying in person, that it doesn't get much use.

Their texbook buyback policy is also infuriating. They buy books back for 50% of the list price (note that's 50% of the list price, not 50% of what you paid after taxes) then turn around and sell it again for 75% of the list price. That's a 50% markup with minimal labour costs and no shipping costs. I think tax gets charged on the used books too, though I'm not sure because they're rarely available to me. And it's no wonder. Students have little incentive to sell their books back because they lose so much money. Other places pay more and resell for less. The best scenario is to sell your old books to another student, but it's difficult due to lack of communication.

I've long thought our pseudo-elected resume-padding AMS members should take charge and organize a direct student-to-student text swap. I eventually found out they have one but it sure isn't advertised anywhere. There's also another web site run by some students who had the same idea. I hope they catch on. Of course, there's still the problem of new editions. I fully appreciate the importance of updating the information as new discoveries are made or the authors devise better ways of explaining things, but I have a real problem with the new editions that just slap on a crappy Windows-only CD-ROM (which in some places makes the book subject to stricter software return polices instead of normal book return policies) and renumber all the homework problems to discourage people from using the old edition. The administration is always sending out requests for feedback, so I once asked what they were doing to encourage professors to let students use older editions wherever possible or otherwise keep down textbook costs. The answer I got back was basically "that's not our problem."

Posted by tim at December 31, 2004 03:15 PM
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i concur wholeheartedly. i would imagine a ubc bookstore employee makes more than an amazon/chapters employee, so that may be part of it (union employees at ubc bookstore). amazon.co.uk is usually the best deal on books that i've found; plus evan had that site that would trawl all of the online book sites and find the best deals for you. that thing was great.

Posted by: beth on December 31, 2004 04:00 PM

onepricetexts.com lives!

Unfortunately, the code was lost during one of Cory's manic $HOME cleanups. We could probably re-create it in a few days, however....

Posted by: evan on January 1, 2005 10:20 PM

http://pricenoia.com compares all the Amazon sites.

The University of Windsor's bookstore offered me $9 for a $120 hardcover text in perfect condition. That was after one term. They did the same for the very few texts they would even consider buying. Excuses were "we're not offering that course next term" (somewhat valid) and "there's a new edition coming out in February or March" (HATE -- how does that affect sales for next term?) I think they were willing to give about $30 for a bag of books I could barely carry. Fuck you very much!

Posted by: grant on January 5, 2005 11:59 AM
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